I hardly ever hear any news about George W. Bush now that he’s out of the President’s seat. That’s not unusual though as most former Presidents seem to duck out of the spotlight as much as they can after their respective terms because in reality, it’s a tough job that puts you under constant scrutiny for 4 years or more.

In this ABC News interview, we get to hear what the Bush’s have been up to, specifically in Zambia where George W. Bush has been instrumental in saving lives through clinics he and his wife have helped set up. He seems relaxed and certainly more wise about his long-term legacy after the Presidency.